[Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:10:28] Join You have joined the channel #kde-fosscamp (n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:10:28] Mode Channel modes: secret, no messages from outside [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:10:28] Created This channel was created on 10/20/2007 11:17:05 AM. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:10:29] I see neither lfranchi or jeff mitchell on any lists of attendees though - so we might have to just coerce them to come down in a less official capacity... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:11:00] I see them here http://www.fosscamp.org/HowToAttend [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:11:10] I saw them there too [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:13:37] Notify DShepherd is online (irc.ubuntu.com). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:13:39] ok.. so when are people arriving? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:14:07] Join lfranchi has joined this channel (n=leo@amarok/developer/lfranchi). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:14:13] ah, more joining [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:14:18] hello [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:14:32] BA213 13:00 friday [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:14:48] BA213? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:14:59] UA2546 21:00 [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:00] DL 8604 26OCT 1500 [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:04] arriving flight [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:07] ah yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:12] (oh.. on friday) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:17] Join troy_ has joined this channel (n=troy@wnpgmb014tw-ad03-234-149.dynamic.mts.net). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:18] British Airways [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:22] BA [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:34] lagged out, sorry [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:37] Quit troy has left this server (Nick collision from services.). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:40] Nick troy_ is now known as troy. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:50] i guess i'll hop on the T on sat :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:15:56] does everyone know how to get to the hotel from the airport? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:04] Riddell: nope :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:10] I have neat instructions [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:17] so I'll be OK I think [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:21] annma: are they online someplace? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:22] annma: using the T? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:22] its pretty easy.. you can get on the silver line directly at the airport [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:27] get the silver line [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:29] then transfer on to the red line [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:31] switch at south station [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:34] using the silver line, yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:40] yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:47] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41582/ [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:53] I already printed that and have some $ [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:16:57] I have some details in an email from Claire... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:04] troy: yes, taht's the one [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:08] wait [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:10] don't use that one [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:18] that shuttles you to the blue line [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:48] lfranchi: is it easier than taking the silverline to transfer? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:54] no, it is slower [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:17:56] ive always taken the train the entire way.. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:00] I was going to ask for people's phone numbers, but my phone won't work in the US [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:03] especially since you want to go to MIT, right? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:12] so the silver line as claire siad is oK? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:14] Riddell: I don't own a cell phone myself... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:22] MIT is on the red line, so its faster to silverline to south station, swith to redline northbound and get off at Kendall/MIT [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:31] * DaSkreech whispers to troy looks good for me to turn up Jan Btw [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:48] DaSkreech: send an email to release-event@kde.org :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:18:58] I will once i have firmer confirmation [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:05] DaSkreech: okay, thanks :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:06] I don't know if there's an organised meal on friday or not, I'm pretty sure there isn't [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:22] lfranchi: debit cards work alright in Boston? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:22] no, there isn't [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:31] lfranchi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41584/ [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:38] troy: sure, if they are VISA/PLUS/whatever [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:38] is that OK? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:19:55] we'll get $25 per diem that can be claimed for evening meals (you don't need to keep receipts) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:07] cool [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:18] annma: looks good [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:23] excellent [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:26] thanks [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:26] hmm [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:29] is central closer? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:32] do credit cards need PINs in the US at shops? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:34] good thing i saw those instructions :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:37] Riddell: no [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:40] you can just sign [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:51] should we keep this channel open during the event as a communications method? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:52] lfranchi: ok, makes things easier [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:56] if you use a automated thing and it asks for one [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:57] press cancel [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:20:59] :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:21:44] troy: why not, this is only my 224th irssi window :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:21:58] Riddell: hahaha [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:22:08] Topic troy sets the channel topic to "KDE FossCamp communications channel". [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:22:39] Okay, Riddell, do you want to talk about roomies, or should I? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:22:53] troy: go ahead [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:22:54] * troy already noted that annma and seele are booked together... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:22:58] :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:01] yepper [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:08] Join jcastro has joined this channel (n=jcastro@ethos.battleaxe.net). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:09] I guess there are not many of us [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:17] hi! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:22] Riddell: I'm sure that you're aware of your accomodations... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:29] jcastro: hola :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:33] troy: loic isn't it? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:23:56] Riddell: aye [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:24:14] I'm with Dan Shearer, who I believe I've met on irc before, even though I'm not too sure who he is... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:24:32] foolano: what's your real name? I'll look up your roomie :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:24:40] troy: Javier Uruen [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:25:25] with Michael Morgan [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:25:30] foolano: you're with Michael Morgan - not sure what his affiliation is... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:25:47] i dunno either [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:25:53] i'll find out :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:25:55] google time! :P [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:16] troy: Dan Shearer is OpenChange (MS Exchange dropin) and Samba, try to convince him to hold off on that GPL 3 thing :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:18] jcastro: we need to have a meeting sometime during that weekend, by the way :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:29] Riddell: ah! that's where I knew the name from :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:39] troy: do you mean outside the normal fosscamp schedule? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:49] jcastro: well, for coffee or something :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:55] nothing too official [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:26:58] oh, sure sure. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:27:14] okay - lets tackle #3) presentations... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:27:33] annma: I'm assuming you're going to do the kde-edu thing, correct? are you doing that as part of FOSSCamp or UDS? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:27:35] (or both) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:27:36] can someone link me to the agenda? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:27:47] jcastro: http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/9568.html [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:27:53] ta [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:28:00] seems to me fosscamp in general is quite unofficial [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:28:03] troy: nothing is scheduled for me [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:28:28] this being FOSSCamp, nobody actually knows if there is a schedule for it [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:28:30] annma: there is no schedule for fosscamp - it's going to have an open schedule that we can sign up talks when we arrive (as best as I understand it) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:28:30] not sure why I am invited except that I want to work with Edubuntu (but they don't) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:00] annma: you probably have much of an existing presentation that you can reuse, no? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:12] hmm, not really [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:20] latest are in French [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:26] if we dont know the schedule, how do we prepare a presentation? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:31] I can make a quick one but KDE4 or KDE3? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:40] are these meant to be more of meetings or show and tells? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:50] I thought more meetings [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:29:54] troy: I wouldn't mind doing an initial session that is introductions, where we can kind of roundtable, see what people are interested in, etc., and from there derive future sessions [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:30:00] i guess me and jeff can talk about amarok2 [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:30:17] seele: *shrug* BoFs and such I thought ... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:30:25] I don't think there will be the audience for KDE-Edu talk [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:30:35] I'll have one ready in case [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:30:57] but I want more to discuss general things like l10n, data sharing,... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:12] does everyone know jcastro and his position by the way? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:18] annma: there might be for a BoF though - maybe put together like a 15 minute presentation, and be prepared for a sort of feedback session and such [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:22] nope [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:24] Riddell: no [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:38] jcastro: can you give us a quick introduction to yourself and what you do [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:42] troy: OK [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:31:50] hi, I'm the new community guy for jono bacon, my job is external developer relations. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:16] :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:22] one of my first tasks is to improve the communication between upstream projects, like KDE, and ubuntu itself [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:25] who/what is jono bacon? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:27] troy: presentation focused on kde3 or 4? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:38] annma: perhaps this is an opportunity to talk kde-edu + edubuntu relationships for the future - so probably use kde4 stuff [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:39] lfranchi: oh, he's the community lead @ ubuntu [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:42] ...someone who hasn't heard of jono?! surely not! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:47] * seele snickers [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:48] ok troy [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:53] i don't do *ubuntu :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:32:58] * annma met jono back in 2001 [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:06] when I lived in England [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:12] annma: get feedback from them about what they need/want from kde-edu in the future to help shape your ideas and such [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:36] jone was in portugal yesterday with one of my coworkers :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:43] jcastro: and do you have any idea how sessions will be organised and what format of sessions we expect to have (talks, bofs, etc)? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:44] s/jone/jono [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:44] I remember jono from the articles he used to write, way before ubuntu existed :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:33:55] Riddell: it's BOF-esque [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:05] I wouldn't do a normal presentation with like slides [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:07] jcastro: ok so no presentations? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:11] OK [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:19] I thought so [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:30] jcastro: who will be there? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:30] annma: you can do what you want, but I think in this environment having discussions between everyone there will probably be more useful [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:40] yes, I will be there ar ound 9am [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:34:45] we'll have coffee and snacks [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:03] so how it works is there's a blank schedule [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:12] and then people introduce each other [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:17] and as people talk, they fill in slots [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:19] will all staff be at FOSSCAMP or only people on the webpage? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:31] Join mhb has joined this channel (n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:37] yeah, lots of our distro people will be there [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:39] * troy waves hello to mhb [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:35:49] would you mind if I stay here a bit? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:05] mhb: you are invited to idle or speak as you wish :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:09] so really, depending on what people are interested in, the talks just kind of organically grow that way [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:11] all of canonical's distro team should be there (and staying for UDS the next week and the company event the week after) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:22] ok Riddell [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:26] some people are just coming to hack with friends, some are planning on talking to other projects, etc. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:29] I cannot really join you at fosscamp for several reasons, the main one being the U.S. not issuing me a visa, but I'd like to stay up-to-date on information. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:37] who is mhb? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:36:49] mhb is one of our elite Kubuntu developers [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:05] ok, hi mhb [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:11] who would have been coming, but alas wasn't allowed in the country [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:15] aw [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:18] :( [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:18] :-/ [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:48] :( [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:49] * troy doesn't need a visa for like half of the countries on the planet - is pretty lucky to be canadian... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:54] hi everyone [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:37:59] jcastro: ok , seems fun [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:01] and thanks for the support [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:13] troy: luckier than you think, at least half the world doesn't hate your country :P [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:15] * lfranchi is not too bad off with a US and EU passport :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:19] * DaSkreech blames canada [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:34] DaSkreech: with their beady little eyes and flapping heads? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:36] annma: I don't really know anyone and I just started, so I'm just going to show up, introduce myself, and start asking questions [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:48] Notify nikkiana went offline (irc.ubuntu.com). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:54] you know us now ;) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:38:56] anyway guys - since we are altering our agenda from Presentation to BoF topics - shall we at least designate a few topics now so that we're half-way prepared? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:05] jcastro: so everyone should come with things to discuss and try and find other people with similar interests and have BoFs? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:06] yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:30] Riddell: yeah, actually [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:31] one topic will be the state of kde-edu in kubuntu/edubuntu with kde edu 4.0 (whether it's stable enough to go into LTS, for example) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:48] what I wanted to do, was just to find each other in the beginning [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:55] mmm, interesting idea [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:39:58] and just sit down and start roundtabling right away [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:40:24] troy: yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:40:33] jcastro: coming in with a few prepared topics will help keep things running efficient though, so we don't spend an entire day talking about Samba+GPL3 :P [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:40:33] I wouldn't mind a KDE4 session, I don't know anything about it [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:41:12] yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:41:16] jcastro: okay :) I'm game for that in general - seele, you were mentioning you'd like to talk about KDE 4, right? were you referring to the technology, or what in particular? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:41:20] troy: yeah, and also, me personally I will be asking what everyone's complaints are. :D [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:41:49] troy: I'd like to see one generally about KDE4, technology, roadmap, etc. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:41:56] jcastro: I'm all over that one :) I'm trying to open some communication channels, which is my goal for the event... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:03] I mean literally, I don't know anything about it. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:13] jcastro: I can talk about the technology, but so can a lot of other people, so it'd be a good topic :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:14] me and seele and evand need to sit down and look at ubiquity and what still needs to be done from her usability review (probably large bits of it) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:24] yeah [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:42] 2 sessions already! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:47] besides general usability, i want to make sure that and printing get covered [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:42:54] lfranchi: you can come talk amarok 2, which is still one of the most killer apps in the free software world... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:05] Join jefferai has joined this channel (n=jeff@amarok/developer/mitchell). [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:08] hi [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:10] seele: ah, good, let's talk about that then, I'm pondering things for printing [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:14] hi jefferai :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:18] jefferai: hola - going to come harass us at MIT? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:23] annma: you going to be there? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:26] hey troy [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:30] hey jefferai [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:32] jefferai: yes! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:33] dude, you guys are going to be the ones harassing me [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:35] troy: we'll need a session on translations too apparently? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:39] what makes you think you can all come to Boston [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:40] geez [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:43:44] lol [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:06] jefferai: when are you planning on showing up? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:09] yes translations needs to be talked about [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:13] saturday morning [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:14] jcastro: I'm not the expert on that one, but it is one of the more commonly raised complaints [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:19] what exactly about translations? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:22] too bad nixternal is not coming [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:38] troy: actually, a session about common complaints wouldn't be a bad idea. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:39] jefferai: ok, sounds good [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:46] mhb: fosscamp isn't about "exactly"s [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:54] fosscamp is sat and sun right? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:44:54] mhb: Ubuntu and KDE, how to harmonize things [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:45:01] jefferai: yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:45:02] jefferai: yep [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:45:14] right, I have nothing to do that weekend except fosscamp [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:45:19] jcastro: I would put that into my communications thing - since the complaints are usually a result of a lack of communication rather than any particularly flawed philosophy or anything... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:45:29] troy: yeah. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:05] jefferai, lfranchi: we need to have a session to demo amarok 2 and we can tell you all our amarok moans [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:07] troy, I used to know a lot of canadians, and I will expect you to say "eh" a lot [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:17] moans? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:18] :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:24] jefferai: I'll do it just to make you happy, eh. :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:37] Amarok is perfect, there is nothing wrong with it, you can have no legitimate moans, etc. [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:38] troy: I'm playing with them right now on the Binner Cd and they are really very solid I only picked up thre or four bugs so far [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:46] jefferai: should be a quick session then :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:50] heh [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:51] yeah [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:46:56] heh [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:47:23] the context is in a bad state right now, but i have 3 midterms this week so me fixing it up before fosscamp is not happening :-/ [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:47:31] troy: that was for the KDE-edu apps btw :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:03] jefferai: UDS is the following 5 days incase you missed that [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:03] okay - so I have a list of 5 topics that we can hit on during the roundtable-style BoFs... they are as follows: [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:06] on the other hand, device support is coming along, slowly, but I could do some demo at least [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:08] jefferai: but we can show off the nifty new playlist/web service stuff :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:10] Riddell: yeah I know, but I'll be at work [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:14] 1) KDE 4 technologies (general information) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:19] sure [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:22] (to lfranchi ) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:35] 2) KDE4 EDU - inclusion into edubuntu and/or LTS, etc... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:50] 3) communications channels and issues that need to be solved [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:48:58] 4) usability issues (seele) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:17] 4) is too general, we want one on ubiquity [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:19] and one on printing [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:25] Riddell: okay :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:39] and qtpart ed :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:40] 1) is too general too :P [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:41] if there is time, i can address some usability stuff in 3) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:48] id like to talk about ways to get more studies going [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:49:50] seele: good stuff :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:50:09] 5) amarok stuff - issues, tech demos of 2.0, and more :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:50:26] sweet [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:50:47] jefferai: do you have a laptop with amarok2 working well (as well as it does now) on it? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:50:59] anything else we need to prepare for? (I mean, obviously with an open schedule, we'll have room to adjust if we need to...) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:03] yeah, although I'm not sure how good my batteries are anymore [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:03] troy: annma wanted translations? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:10] so as long as I can plug it in, yes [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:16] ok cool, i'm laptop-less [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:21] troy: don't forget after-session beers! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:22] Riddell: we will probably talk about that in #3 as one of the upstream communication issues [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:22] I update KDE from SVN almost every day on it, so... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:27] there will be power available (bring US adaptors outsiders) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:30] jcastro: yeah, we need a SIG for beer [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:35] I am interested in data sharing as well (KNewStuff, how can *buntu collect data,..) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:54] annma: I'll add that [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:51:54] troy: jono is handling the social aspects, but there's this place in cambridge with huge beer tower spigots per-table [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:10] related to Edu are small devices like Classmate PC [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:11] it is also the weekend before halloween [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:14] bring costumes! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:17] seele: lol [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:18] are we going to have hacking sessions? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:23] this is probably the only OSS conference held in a place that i can't drink legally :P [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:24] want to know if I should come prepared [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:26] :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:37] seele: you serious? I can bring a costume if you really want me too :P [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:41] you Bostonian organize costumes for us travellers [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:42] people tend to hack, so yeah, be prepared to hack [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:43] annma: everyone thinks i'm kidding, but boston is one of the best cities for halloween [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:49] jefferai: not specifically, but there should be plenty of bandwidth and space [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:52:51] Knewstuff! :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:53:01] seele: it's because everyone goes up to Salem [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:53:29] DaSkreech: ;) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:53:43] jefferai: what we don't want is for people to isolate themselves in a room with a laptop or something. The idea being that if you're working on something then there's other projects there to do collaboration with [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:53:46] I was reading the wiki on that the other day :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:53:47] okay guys - we will skip 4) on the agenda as it is no longer relevant... [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:54:20] number 5) was issues that we need to tackle with *ubuntu in general [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:54:28] troy: yeah, it should be directed at an application or part of the comm discussion [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:54:54] pushing upstream? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:54:56] don't have two KDE releases in the same week as ubuntu releases :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:54:56] jcastro: yeah, sure, no problem...I don't really need to do a lot of hacking or anything, I just wanted to know whether I should pack necessary materials [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:02] :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:18] jefferai: what exactly are necessary materials? :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:19] the issues that I've seen come up most frequently are patches going upstream, and keeping translations in sync... does anyone have anything major to add to this list? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:34] my anti-carpal-tunnel wrist thingies [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:51] i see [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:53] troy: put "feature parity" on that list [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:57] http://www.imakproducts.com/products/smart_glove.htm [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:55:58] those [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:13] nice [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:15] jcastro: feature parity? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:23] I don't have carpal tunnel but I do get bad tendonintis, so I'm trying (since I type on a computer all day) to make sure it doesn't turn into something worse [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:27] annma: between ubuntu and kubuntu [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:32] ok, food time, see y'all soon ;) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:47] lfranchi: see you next week :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:56:59] there's also a large number of Launchpad developers coming, including Carlos from Rosetta [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:57:00] annma: yeah, like say during uds someone comes up with a great idea, like Foo Feature. At UDS I'll be tracking features like that and making sure that there's a tag in launchpad (or whatever) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:57:00] Riddell: Yeah Jucato blogged that :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:57:06] on my side I'd like to know if Edubuntu people have any cpmplain about the way we have our apps+data in svn [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:57:55] sort of: do they have trouble packaging? dependencies? data? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:57:55] jcastro: one thing you have to be careful about is the idea that using launchpad is a good place for open collaboration [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:09] troy: hence the "or whatever" [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:12] annma: good topics fro that bof :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:22] s/fro/for [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:24] the general idea is that if someone plans a feature for normal Ubuntu that there is a list somewhere [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:30] annma: tried edubuntu-desktop-kde / [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:39] so that we can track it in kubuntu as well [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:41] there should be a general Launchpad bof [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:46] yeah, good idea [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:58:58] Riddell: yes, there should be, but it's not really KDE specific so I didn't bring it up :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:59:18] Riddell: like, how can we somehow synchronize b.k.o and Launchpad [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:59:33] jefferai: yep [Sun Oct 21 2007] [16:59:35] cause now that we don't get LP emails on our buglist anymore, my three week spree of going there 10 times a day is totally gone [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:00] although on the other hand, not doing that leaves more hacking time :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:26] okay, gotta go guys [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:27] see you! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:34] jefferai: see you there :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:39] yep! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:45] see you! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:50] see you all [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:00:56] see you on friday (probably quite sleepy) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:01:32] A.O.B.? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:01:43] A.O.B.? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:01:48] * jefferai is back for 2 seconds [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:01:50] okay - I'll harass the rest of the KDE crew about any issues they think need solving, and I'll be prepared for them during that session :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:05] any other business [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:09] oh [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:10] lol [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:13] bye again then :-) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:15] Riddell: that's the end of our agenda :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:27] say EOA [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:29] unless anyone else has anything specific :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:31] troy: grats on the spice girls! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:36] is there a wikie page with arrival times? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:38] that's all I got ;) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:02:54] i doubt anyone else is getting in as late as me though.. the flight from DC is only an hour [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:03:12] that would be nice to see if some people are in the same flight [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:03:36] not sure there are other Frenchies [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:03:38] I'm actually in pretty early on friday - 2:30PM [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:03:40] I'm driving into town so I'll be there on like Thursday [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:03:46] so if someone is around just look me up [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:03:52] 15:00 for me troy [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:04:05] annma: je peux parler un peu de francais, mais pas beaucoup :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:04:13] lol [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:04:17] wear a geek t-shirt and hopefully someone will recognise you at the airport [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:04:28] seems the canonical wiki page lacks arrival times for people [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:05:03] Riddell: the blue KDE ball caps! :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:05:06] Riddell: are you bringing a konqui halloween costume? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:05:06] I saw the weather was not too bad [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:05:18] should we expect cold? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:05:28] or will it stay as it is currently? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:05:37] annma: cool but not cold this time of year - they are still playing baseball in boston :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:06:10] ok so around 45-50? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:06:24] bring a jacket :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:06:27] Boston is windy, no? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:06:31] what's that in real temperature? [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:06:35] * annma learnt some figures and relates them to Celsius [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:06:37] Riddell: 10C [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:07:12] http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0106 7 to 11C [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:07:40] ok I should go to bed [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:07:40] pretty warm actually - annma used to live in Quebec :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:07:46] night annma :) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:07:46] yes ;) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:07:49] it might be a little cooler than it is now because it might rain [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:08:03] jcastro: nice meeting you and looking forward meeting you in real [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:08:08] same for seele :)) [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:08:14] annma: see you in a few days! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:08:23] bye all! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:08:27] annma: likewise! [Sun Oct 21 2007] [17:08:28] Quit annma has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).